diff --git a/source/Ox.UI/js/Form/ArrayEditable.js b/source/Ox.UI/js/Form/ArrayEditable.js
index 74cab983..87fcbcf0 100644
--- a/source/Ox.UI/js/Form/ArrayEditable.js
+++ b/source/Ox.UI/js/Form/ArrayEditable.js
@@ -351,17 +351,11 @@ Ox.ArrayEditable = function(options, self) {
         }
     }
 
-    function triggerSelectEvent() {
-        if (!self.triggered) {
-            that.triggerEvent('select', {
-                id: self.options.selected
-            });
-            self.triggered = true;
-            setTimeout(function() {
-                self.triggered = false;
-            }, 250);
-        }
-    }
+    var triggerSelectEvent = Ox.debounce(function() {
+        that.triggerEvent('select', {
+            id: self.options.selected
+        });
+    }, true);
 
     /*@
     addItem <f> addItem
diff --git a/source/Ox.UI/js/List/List.js b/source/Ox.UI/js/List/List.js
index 2c9fb4f6..762ba829 100644
--- a/source/Ox.UI/js/List/List.js
+++ b/source/Ox.UI/js/List/List.js
@@ -1149,8 +1149,8 @@ Ox.List = function(options, self) {
 
     function select(pos) {
         if (!isSelected(pos) || self.selected.length > 1) {
-            selectNone();
-            addToSelection(pos);
+            setSelected([pos]);
+            triggerSelectEvent();
             self.options.centered && scrollToPosition(pos);
         }
     }
@@ -1205,7 +1205,7 @@ Ox.List = function(options, self) {
     }
 
     function selectNone() {
-        deselect(Ox.range(self.listLength));
+        deselect(Ox.clone(self.selected));
     }
 
     function selectPrevious() {
@@ -1229,20 +1229,21 @@ Ox.List = function(options, self) {
     }
 
     function setSelected(ids, callback) {
+        // ids can be positions
         // fixme: callback is never used
         // note: can't use selectNone here,
         // since it'd trigger a select event
         var counter = 0;
         self.$items.forEach(function($item, pos) {
             if (isSelected(pos)) {
-                self.selected.splice(self.selected.indexOf(pos), 1);
                 if (!Ox.isUndefined(self.$items[pos])) {
                     self.$items[pos].removeClass('OxSelected');
                 }
             }
         });
+        self.selected = [];
         ids.forEach(function(id, i) {
-            var pos = getPositionById(id);
+            var pos = Ox.isString(id) ? getPositionById(id) : id;
             if (pos > -1) {
                 select(pos, i);
             } else if (self.isAsync) {
@@ -1314,34 +1315,26 @@ Ox.List = function(options, self) {
         }, key ? {key: key} : {}));
     }
 
-    function triggerSelectEvent() {
-        // FIXME: the first select event should fire immediately
-        // see ArrayEditable
-        getSelectedIds(function(ids) {
+    var triggerSelectEvent = Ox.debounce(function() {
+        // throttle in case shift+cursor is pressed
+        getSelectedIds(function(ids, rest) {
             self.options.selected = ids;
-            setTimeout(function() {
-                getSelectedIds(function(ids_, rest) {
-                    self.options.selected = ids_;
-                    if (Ox.isEqual(ids, ids_)) {
-                        that.triggerEvent('select', Ox.extend({
-                            ids: ids
-                        }, rest ? {
-                            rest: rest
-                        } : {}));
-                        if (self.preview) {
-                            if (ids.length) {
-                                that.triggerEvent('openpreview', {
-                                    ids: ids
-                                });
-                            } else {
-                                that.triggerEvent('closepreview');
-                            }
-                        }
-                    }
-                });
-            }, 100);
-        })
-    }
+            that.triggerEvent('select', Ox.extend({
+                ids: ids
+            }, rest ? {
+                rest: rest
+            } : {}));
+            if (self.preview) {
+                if (ids.length) {
+                    that.triggerEvent('openpreview', {
+                        ids: ids
+                    });
+                } else {
+                    that.triggerEvent('closepreview');
+                }
+            }
+        });
+    }, true);
 
     function triggerToggleEvent(expanded) {
         that.triggerEvent('toggle', {
@@ -1612,8 +1605,8 @@ Ox.List = function(options, self) {
         var arr = Ox.range(self.listLength).filter(function(pos) {
             return !isSelected(pos);
         });
-        selectNone();
-        addToSelection(arr);
+        setSelected(arr);
+        triggerSelectEvent();
         return that;
     };